EU4 Leviathan is now the most poorly rated product on Steam, beating out the previous worst by 3%

Leviathan is now the most poorly rated product on Steam, beating out the previous worst by 3%
Please give a warm welcome to Paradox Tinto's newest team member, Quality Assurance and Professional Playtester:
[1.31] NEWS: JOHANS APOLOGY
Every issue of Leviathan update is officially forgiven.
Crown colonies are absolutely balanced. Imagine that on MP game
Cyberpunk 1444
Major DLC positive ratings compared to 50%
I see your 6/6/6 ruler and raise you a buggy update
I'm saddened by the misinformation being spread about Aboriginal Australia
Johan has straight up ruined at least two games now
The best fix from the new 1.31.1 patch!
Highest stats i have seen so far.
I see your God King ruler and raise you one barley literate terminator
Aged Like Milk
My humble contribution to the tags in steam
overwhelmingly negative and some pretty nice tags
The HOI4 devs posted this today and I think it's something the EU4 community should read as well. Keep things civil folks.
"Psychological Horror" Hahahaha. Was the update really this bad?!
A remnant of a more simple, bugfree past...
"Fans are not people" - Paradox Interactive
I see u/Bonatogether1’s 180821392/505/2990 ruler and raise him
Continuing the trend of "Aged like milk"...
Paradox known about this bug, and still released leviathan
Fun fact: if you annex your vassal as a tribe, they get banished straight to the shadow realm
Anyone else notice that the apology for Leviathan was deleted on the Paradox Forums?

Leviathan is now the most poorly rated product on Steam, beating out the previous worst by 3%

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 07:38 AM PDT

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Please give a warm welcome to Paradox Tinto's newest team member, Quality Assurance and Professional Playtester:

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 08:58 AM PDT

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[1.31] NEWS: JOHANS APOLOGY

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 05:23 AM PDT

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Every issue of Leviathan update is officially forgiven.

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 05:58 AM PDT

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Crown colonies are absolutely balanced. Imagine that on MP game

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 03:31 AM PDT

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Cyberpunk 1444

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 12:18 AM PDT

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Major DLC positive ratings compared to 50%

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 05:34 AM PDT

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I see your 6/6/6 ruler and raise you a buggy update

Posted: 27 Apr 2021 05:51 PM PDT

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I'm saddened by the misinformation being spread about Aboriginal Australia

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 03:53 AM PDT

I know people are mad at the new expansion, but when people take it out on Aboriginal culture in the form of long debunked arguments it does no credit to anyone.

Whilst it's true that pre-colonial Australia had no nation states in the way we would currently define them, the arguments that they were a collection of completely primitive natives who hadn't even learned to farm is honestly insulting.

Indigenous peoples were, at large, a semi-nomadic collection of tribes. These tribes however had vast knowledge of their local environment and created some of the most fertile soil on earth through extensive land management, the sort that we would today consider sophisticated. This included among others massive controlled burns, irrigation systems, aquaculture, and the planting and harvesting of seed along with preserving and storing the surplus. Bill Gammage, historian at the Australian National University, describes early Australia as "a farm without fences," stating that "the gathering [was] the end point of a very sophisticated farming process."

This is not to say that Indigenous culture necessarily deserves all of the advancements it has in the newest version of EU4, as it is definitely fair to say that they were not as technologically advanced as many of our favourite nations in 1444. But this isn't due to some cultural inferiority, it is due to a vast cultural divergence that developed during the over sixty thousand years of pre-colonial settlement. Dreamtime, what would be described as the closest thing to an Aboriginal 'religion', is something that is just incomparable to many of the European perspectives that many of us are used to. This led to a completely alien perspective on the world, as noted in the diaries of many settlers. This was often exploited by those very same settlers.

Some of the comments I've seen have been so disappointing, and not to single any one out in particular but often these use the very same arguments that were used to justify the Australian practice of both material and cultural genocide, and its something I expected better of from this community.

I really hope that we can do better as a community in the future, because I know that we're just a bunch of history loving nerds that want to paint the map. But please consider the harm you can be perpetuating when you advance views that have been weaponised for centuries.

https://www.utas.edu.au/news/2020/8/3/1043-the-enduring-myth-of-the-hunter-gatherer/

https://www.abc.net.au/radionational/programs/archived/bushtelegraph/rethinking-indigenous-australias-agricultural-past/5452454

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dreaming

For those interested, most of this information is conveyed best in the books Dark Emu by Bruce Pascoe, and The Biggest Estate on Earth by the aforementioned Bill Gammage.

EDIT: I should probably clarify, I'm definitely not talking about criticism of in-game mechanics, but I am criticising comments saying Paradox should create a farming institution and then give it to everyone but the Aboriginal nations, both this exact sentiment and ones like it have been prevalent in discussion threads. These are the kinds of things that are bad, not saying that you don't think the development of Eora should be what it is.

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Johan has straight up ruined at least two games now

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 11:07 AM PDT

For those of you that dont know, Johan, EU4's game director, has been with Paradox for ages. He is a veteran of the industry and full credit to him, he has made some really amazing stuff. However, in the last five years since the announcement of Imperator, he has run every game he has touched into the ground.

First, Imperator. Imperator had some very high expectations on release. It was a map painter like Eu4, but had characters like CK2, and pops like Stellaris or Victoria II. On release, it failed on all of those points. It used mana excessively, a common trait of Johan due to his background in board games and was just unfun to play in every way. I know someone who beta tested for the game, and if you thought it was bad on release, it was worse in beta. It was literally a map painter/mana spender with no actual interactive mechanics. He refused feedback from beta testers and released it as was. And the game tanked. Now, three years later, it is finally climbing out of the dumpster and is actually fun to play. (If you havent tried it since release, I highly suggest you do so.) Why has it improved? Well, Johan's antiquated ideas are now gone from the project.

Johan is now ruining EU4. Since the departure of DDR Jake, Eu4 has gone all the way downhill. Jake added awesome mechanics like missions, a super flavorful and interactive mechanic that wasnt just clicking a button. Johan then came in and released two of the most buggy, unbalanced, and all around horrible DLCs in ages, Emperor and Leviathan. If the team had taken an addition month or two on these projects they would have been much better, but no, they released them without proper testing and here we are, Leviathan is the most unpopular release on Steam. Every patch we can expect an apology post now.

It should also be noted that Johan is a major stock holder of Paradox. The financial motivations of a stockholder as a game director should not be overstated. He only cares about selling copies, not actually making a good product. Sure, selling copies is the goal of a Game Director, but when they are not a major stockholder there is a layer removed that allows a Game Director to hold off on a release to make sure the game is playable.

Thanks Johan.

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The best fix from the new 1.31.1 patch!

Posted: 28 Apr 2021 06:58 AM PDT